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Episode 179 · 21 Sep 2026 · 34 min

Do Schools Really Kill Creativity? | A Conversation with Claire Badger

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What you'll hear in this episode.

Claire Badger, a former research scientist and science teacher, disagrees with one of the most popular ideas in education: that schools kill creativity. Drawing on the cognitive science in her book, she argues that creativity has a clear definition (something must be both new and useful) and that most school approaches to it miss the second half. If your school celebrates its art displays, orchestra and project weeks as proof of creativity, this conversation will make you question what those activities are actually building. It matters for international school leaders in particular, where inquiry-based and project-based learning sit at the heart of the curriculum.

You'll hear why a child's paperclip-spaceship idea is imaginative but not creative, and why a group of students told to write about "Colin, a red-haired boy missing a toe" produced better stories than those given a blank page. Claire shares her own "sustainable product" project day, which ended with a perpetual motion machine, and explains why cross-curricular projects often teach less than leaders hope. You'll also pick up practical first steps, from loosening the grip of data drops and Key Stage 3 exams to changing just one element of a lesson, such as asking for a video explanation instead of pages of written calculations. Shane and Claire even compare two very different schools and ask which one is more likely to produce creative graduates.


Resources & Links Mentioned:

Ken Robinson's TED talk "Do Schools Kill Creativity?"

The Double Diamond design process (Design Council)

World Economic Forum Future of Jobs Report

Claire Badger on LinkedIn

Claire Badger's Creativity for Teachers: A Cognitive Science Approach (The Teacher CPD Academy)


Episode Partners

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Shane Leaning, an organisational coach based in Shanghai, supports school leaders globally. He is the author of the best-selling 'Change Starts Here.' Shane is a leading educational voice in the UK, Asia and around the world.


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